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Hobbes
(208.57.204.148) on 11/19/2003 - 10:37 p.m. says: ( 6 views
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you may have in your house. I mean after all your granpaw spent New's Day 1926 decoding dots and dashes. But Bama did not list those in their press guide like they did the AP/UPI championships until the 1980's.
How about this.
1925 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with Dartmouth. Who awarded the NC?
Houlgate and Helms. Houlgate started his system in 1927. So Bama won their 1925 NC using a formula that didn't
exist until 1927? Helms Athletic Foundation started in 1941. Another incredible retroactive NC.
1926 National Championship- Alabama claims they share this one with 3 other teams with equal or better records!
Once again it is the Helms Athletic Foundation in 1941 that awards it!
1930 National Championship- The Davis poll says that Bama tied Notre Dame for NC this year. This was the only
one to award it to Bama. Notre Dame was named NC in 6 polls! Parke Davis is another retroactive system! He (an
individual, not an organization) did his in 1933!
1934 National Championship- Alabama says they share this with two other teams. The awarders are Dunkel,
Williamson, and Football Thesaurus. Dunkel was an individual who came up with his own system. Williamson was a
geologist who came up with his own system. Football Thesaurus first appeared in 1946!
1941 National Championship- This is a complete joke. The AP ranked Alabama 20th in the nation with 14 teams
with better records in the top 20. Once again it is the Football Thesaurus that retroactively awards it. Alabama
finished 3rd in the SEC that year.
1961 National Championship- Finally a legitimate NC.
1964 National Championship- AP did award the NC to Bama (10-1-0), Arkansas Alabama played Texas in their bowl and LOST. The AP final poll was before the bowl.]
1965 National Championship- The AP gave this to Bama. That year there were three teams with better records
than Bama. Bama 9-1-1, Michigan St 10-1-0, Arkansas 10-1-0, Nebraska 10-1-0.
1973 National Championship- AP puts Bama 4th after their bowl game loss. Bama claims a NC from the UPI poll
that was taken before they met Notre Dame in the bowl game and lost. There were 3 teams with better records than
Bama that year. The embarrassment of naming Alabama number one caused the UPI to name champions after bowl
games.
1978 National Championship- AP gives this to Alabama(11-1-0)
1979 National Championship- Their first Unanimous NC.
1992 National Championship- Their second Unanimous NC.
You can see why people ridicule Bama fans when they talk about 12 NCs. The early ones were awarded by
individuals years after the games were played. These weren't consensus polls but NCs awarded by people that had
their own formula for determining champions. Some NCs where given before bowl games that Bama lost. Using
Alabama logic, Auburn could claim four national championships. But when Bammers brag they like to say they have
twelve and Auburn has one. How silly. The SED recognizes 7 NCs for Bama and there are only two NCs that
Bama has unanimously. You can't find an Auburn site claiming four national championships but there are plenty Bama
sites claiming twelve and some claim twenty..
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